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In their lively and entertaining weekly discussion of issues related to higher education, KUT’s Jennifer Stayton and Southwestern University President Dr. Ed Burger explore the topics of higher education, lifelong learning, and exercising the brain. Ed and Jennifer practice what they preach, too, by introducing math puzzlers and brain teasers to keep listeners on their toes.

Higher Ed: The 'Messiness' of Learning

Most people like what's familiar, comfortable, and tidy. But should learning be that way, too? In this week's episode of KUT's podcast Higher Ed, KUT's Jennifer Stayton and Southwestern University President Dr. Ed Burger talk about the ways in which learning is actually quite messy. And how we shouldn't want it any other way.

This week, Ed and Jennifer talk about the value of getting down and dirty when it comes to learning new ideas.  But does the thought of messing things up bring on anxiety? Click here to hear Ed's thoughts about anxiety, learning, and education and to hear the latest puzzler. For this one you need ten friends, ten mangoes, and one sturdy box.

This episode was recorded on February 24, 2016.

For all of the Higher Ed episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on itunes here!

Jennifer Stayton is the local host for NPR's "Morning Edition" on KUT. Got a tip? Email her at Follow her on X @jenstayton.