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In their lively and entertaining weekly discussion of issues related to higher education, KUT’s Jennifer Stayton and Southwestern University President Dr. Ed Burger explore the topics of higher education, lifelong learning, and exercising the brain. Ed and Jennifer practice what they preach, too, by introducing math puzzlers and brain teasers to keep listeners on their toes.

Higher Ed: 'Intellectual Hurt'

In a recent episode of KUT's podcast "Higher Ed," Southwestern University President Dr. Ed Burgerused the phrase "hurt yourself intellectually." Doesn't sound like a great idea, does it? In this episode,  KUT's Jennifer Staytontalks with Ed about the phrase means in relation to our learning and education, and why a little intellectual "hurt" might not actually be the worst thing - as long as it's done with awareness.

Ed contends we can all learn and grow by operating outside our comfort zones, as long as we learn from the experience. Click here for Ed and Jennifer's discussion about intellectual hurt and healing, and to hear the latest puzzler, which is all about give and take.

This episode was recorded on Feb. 19, 2017.

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Jennifer Stayton is the local host for NPR's "Morning Edition" on KUT. Got a tip? Email her at Follow her on X @jenstayton.