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In Black America Podcast: Dr. Mable Johns, Minister and Former Blues and R&B Singer

On this edition of In Black America, producer/host John L. Hanson Jr. speaks with Dr. Mable Johns, minister, author, and former Blues and R&B singer.

As the eldest of ten children, John began singing with her siblings as a child, putting on programs and singing traditional Gospel tunes while her mother played the guitar. John and her family moved to Arkansas, where her brother, the legendary singer and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee, William "Little Willie" John was born. The family later moved to Detroit, Michigan. Inspired by her brother's success in the music industry, John started substituting for R&B singer Etta James as the opening act for "Little Willie" John's show when he came to town. In 1956, she worked as a secretary at the Friendship Mutual Insurance Company where her supervisor was Bertha Gordy, mother of the Motown Records founder Berry Gordy.

In 1958, John became the first female artist on Gordy's new label Tamla. Although her first song, "Who Wouldn't Love a Man Like That", did not make the pop charts, it established her as a popular live performer. She sold out shows at the Apollo Theater in New York City and The Howard Theater in Washington, D.C. In 1965, John decided to change labels and signed with StaxRecords where she believed her sound was more appropriate. 

John's first song under the Stax label, "Your Good This (Is About to End)" soared to number six on the R&B charts in the summer of 1966, and the following year, she released the single, "Same Time, Same Place". In 1968, her brother, Little Willie John, died in prison. Subsequently, she went into a deep depression. It was not until 1970, when Ray Charlesoffered her a job as the musical director of the Raelettes, that she continued her musical career. John was the co-writer of fifty songs for Ray Charles before leaving his organization in 1977. She then became the pastor and founder of Joy in Jesus Ministries in Los Angeles, California in 1986. John earned her doctorate in divinity from the Crenshaw Christian Center in 1993 and, in 1994, she was awarded the Pioneer Award by the Rhythm and Blues Foundation.

John L. Hanson is the producer and host of the nationally syndicated radio series In Black America. It’s heard on home station KUT at 10 p.m. Tuesdays and 6:30 a.m. Sundays — and weekly on close to 20 stations across the country. The weekly podcast of IBA, the only nationally broadcast Black-oriented public affairs radio program, is one of KUT’s most popular podcasts.